AOC and Greta Thunberg had this fascinating conversation

Two amazing and inspiring young women — U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Greta Thunberg, the 16-year-old Swedish climate advocate — recently had a conversation.  Read what they said at the link after the short introductory information I wrote here:

The source of the following link had this headline

When Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez met Greta Thunberg: ‘Hope is contagious’

The article linked below has this sub-headline: “One is America’s youngest-ever congresswoman, the other a Swedish schoolgirl. Two of the most powerful voices on the climate speak for the first time.”

I especially like this quotation from AOC: “[H]ope is not something that you have. Hope is something that you create, with your actions.”

Then Greta said this: “I know so many people who feel hopeless, and they ask me, “What should I do?” And I say: “Act. Do something.” Because that is the best medicine against sadness and depression.”

Later when AOC and Greta were discussing the strong concerns that young people have about the climate crisis, Greta said: “[I]t always reminds me a lot of the Emperor’s New Clothes. Everyone believes in this lie, that only a child dares to question.”

I encourage everyone to read this substantive conversation here:

When I shared this with some friends, one friend said that we “old farts” need to get out of the way.  I responded to my friend with this:

Some “old farts” are actually doing good work and pushing boldly ahead. Age is not a barrier.  The people who need to “get out of the way” are the entrenched economic and political power-holders who obstruct bold progress. Some of these are greedy corporations, and some are “centrist” and “liberal” politicians who want only tiny steps (“change your light bulbs” or “enact a modest cap-and-trade”) that fall far short of the radical consciousness-raising and bold institutional restructuring that we need.  Instead of rejecting elders, let’s reject “business-as-usual” and “politics-as-usual.”


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